Subiectul care incinge social media zilele astea e ban-ul costumului de baie de tip burkini, un fel de burka pentru plaja, ceva ce acopera mai tot in afara de fata.

Argumentele anti ban, care se tot repeta la nesfarsit sunt mai jos, impreuna cu mai multe contra argumente pentru fiecare din ele.

1. Femeia trebuie sa aiba libertatea de a se imbraca cu ce vrea ea

Asta e din categoria absolutismelor si e spusa de oameni care se fac ca nu inteleg ca exista o limita in orice libertate ca ea sa functioneze bine. Libertatea ta se sfarseste in general acolo unde o intalneste pe a altuia, iar cenzura are rolul de a ajuta sa nu se mai repete greselile istoriei si sa nu se cauzeze suferinta sau nedreptate victimelor (de asta se amendeaza de exemplu laudarea comunismului in public).

Daca NU e ok sa purtam costume KKK din respect pentru milioanele de victime ale sclaviei, sau haine cu simbolul nazismului din respect pentru victimele holocaustului, la fel nu ar trebui sa purtam burkini, cat timp milioane de femei sunt victime fortate sa poarte burka, desi nu vor, si cat timp burka e in general simbolul unor societati in care femeia e vazuta ca jumatate de persoana (la propriu, in tribunal marturia unei femei valoreaza jumatate cat cea a unui barbat).

2. A obliga femeile sa nu poarte burka e la fel de nociv cu a le obliga sa le poarte

E luata mot a mot propozitia de pe pagina de Facebook numita Feminism in Romania.. Nici nu stiu de unde sa incep, nu este acelasi lucru nici ca numar, nici ca pericole, nici ca urmari. Cel mai bine a spus-o cineva in comentariile lor: “A obliga o femeie sa nu facă FGM (female genitalia mutilation) e la fel de nociv cu a le obliga sa o facă”?. Pana la urma de ce nu ar fi dreptul femeii sa faca ce vrea cu, corpul ei?

In societate sunt mai multe reguli care nu ne plac, pentru nerespectarea carora putem fi amendati dar care lucreaza pentru binele nostru, cum ar fi purtarea centurii de siguranta in masina. Vorbim aici de legi care ne protejeaza de la a ne face noua rau. Sunt lucruri rele care trebuie sa dispara, ca burka si FGM, si prin legi prin care le banezi ajuti ca oamenilor sa le intre in obisnuinta si in gandirea colectiva ca ceva e rau si trebuie evitat.

3. Femeia e obligata sa arate mai multa piele decat vrea din cauza burkin ban

Toata isteria importiva burkini ban-ului a pornit de la o fotografie cu o femeie mai in varsta care isi dadea jos burkini-ul pe plaja din Nice, Franta in timp ce era inconjurata de catre politisti care ii solicitasera asta.

Ce nu se arata/cunoaste insa e ca imediat dupa asta au venit niste persoane de pe plaja si i-au oferit femeii o palarie si un cardigan, pentru ca problema nu e cata piele arata, si nu vrea nimeni sa dezbrace femeile, interdictia e la burkini, din motive pe care le-am explicat mai sus.

Asa si in imaginea de mai jos, diferenta uriasa e ca femeia blonda se poate acoperi din cap pana in picioare cu orice altceva decat burka daca vrea, in timp ce femeia in burka risca hartuire, amenda, inchisoare si chiar pedeapsa cu moartea daca nu vrea sa poarte burka.

4. E xenofobie/rasism altfel s-ar bana si hainele calugaritelor

Avem o data contextul, faptul ca oamenii nu se tem acum de calugarite care sa faca atentate, desi nici despre femeia de pe plaja nu credea nimeni ca e terorista, nu de asta s-a instaurat burkini ban-ul. Diferenta majora este ca, calugaritele sunt toate persoane adulte care au ales asta in timp ce burka nu e o alegere si burkini-ul se face si pentru copii, iar cu disparitia burkini ban-ului se da liber la pus burkini-ul si la fetite sa fie modeste.

Si mie imi punea bunica baticul in cap sa fiu modesta si nu m-am simtit emancipata ca fetita sau femeie ci din contra, vinovata ca pot atrage priviri si ca m-am nascut femeie, asa ca nu o sa incurajez asa ceva, desi daca ar fi dupa mine, as bana ambele costume. Ce am vrut sa subliniez e ca nu este acelasi lucru.

5. E xenofobie/rasism altfel s-ar bana si wet suit-urile


Pana acum imaginile si textele asa ziselor feministe anti ban ziceau ca e vorba de burka. Cand vine o imagine si arata ca nu e vorba de burka, ca pot purta un wet suit la fel de bine daca vor sa arate la fel de putina piele si sa nu aiba probleme cu ban-ul, e transformata tot intr-o imagine care vrea sa arate ca de fapt au ceva cu musulmancele. Nu, nu discrimineaza nimeni persoanele, burka, simbolul, e problema.

Mai oribil de atat, unii au inceput sa spuna, ca si in cazul Charlie Hebdo daca va mai amintiti, ca Franta si-o cere prin astfel de legi, ca atrag atentatele. Nici nu pot comenta.

O sa va zic in sfarsit insa o poveste dintr-un film (Gegen die Wand) despre o fata din Turcia venita in Germania, care a renuntat in Germania la hijab fiindca in sfarsit putea, si din cauza asta niste baieti turci care stiau de unde e ea, si au considerat ca daca nu poarta hijabul nu e o fata cuminte, au violat-o. Burkini ban le poate oferi o scuza foarte buna fetelor care vor sa fie in sfarsit libere, lor de ce vreti sa le luati libertatea?

Ce faci cand ai vazut toate episoadele din South Park, The Simpsons, Family Guy sau pur si simplu vrei ceva nou? Te-apuci si cauti. Asa l-am descoperit pe Rick and Morty, de care cred ca v-am mai spus, si acum inca doua noi:

Bob’s Burgers

Toti lucreaza la restaurantul familiei si au tot felul de incerci antreprenoriale. Cea mica are o personalitate foarte puternica, fratii mai mari sunt cam scarbosi, dar sunt si multe momente sweet intre sot si sotie.

King of the Hill

O familie texana cu un tata a carui gandire traditionala se loveste mereu de lucrurile noi, si in acest serial multe episoade se termina cu momente sweet, intre tata si baiat mai ales. Dintre cele doua parca acesta imi place mai mult si ma mir ca unele episoade sunt din anii 90.

Noi sunt deci doar pentru mine, fiindca serialele sunt aparute, cum am spus, de mult. Cred ca imi plac asa mult animatiile fiindca producatorii pot crea toate lucrurile la care se gandesc desenand, spre deosebire de filme unde e mai greu cu bugetul. Limita e imaginatia si au destula creatorii serialelor acestora.

In Romania televiziunile care transmit jocurile olimpice 2016 din Rio sunt TVR-urile (jocurile se pot urmari si online, gratuit, pe http://www.tvrplus.ro/live-tvr-1). Daca si voi sunteti pasionati ca si mine de jocurile acestea in special: gimnastica, inot si atletism, vedeti mai jos cand au loc jocurile unde ii puteti urmari si sustine pe romani.

Nu stiu de ce televiziunile in afara de Digi 24 au facut asa un secret din programul jocurilor la care participa romani, si il dau numai de la o zi la alta, dar acesta poate fi gasit in intregime online pe site-ul oficial al jocurilor si pe scurt, aici:

Marţi, 9 august
Ora 13.00 – Inot
Ora 22.00 – Inot

Miercuri, 10 august
Ora 10.00 – Inot
Ora 16.00 – Gimnastica: Individual compus masculin
Ora 22:12 – Inot (semifinala)
Ora 22:57 – Inot (finala)

Joi, 11 august
Ora 13.00 – Inot
Ora 16:00 – Gimnastică: Individual compus feminin (finala)
Ora 22.00 – Inot

Vineri, 12 august
Ora 13.00 – Inot

Sâmbătă, 13 august
Ora   9.40 – Atletism, triplusalt feminin
Ora 10:05 – Atletism, 3000m obstacole feminin
Ora 11:50 – Atletism, 400m feminin

Duminică, 14 august
Ora   9:30 – Atletism: Finala maraton feminin
Ora 14:00 – Gimnastică: masculin (finala)
Ora 14:45 – Gimnastică: sarituri feminin (finala)
Ora 15:30 – Gimnastică: masculin (finala)
Ora 20.30 – Atletism inaltime masculin, calificari
Ora 20.35 – Atletism 400m feminin, semifinala
Ora 20.55 – Atletism, triplusalt feminin (finala)

Luni, 15 august
Ora   9:30 – Atletism: triplusalt masculin (calificări)
Ora 10:25 – Atletism: 3000m feminin (finala)
Ora 14.40 – Gimnastică feminin (finala)
Ora 15:30 – Gimnastică masculin (finala)
Ora 22.45 – Atletism: 400m feminin (finala)

Marţi, 16 august
Ora   9.50 – Atletism: triplusalt masculin (finala)
Ora 14.00 – Gimnastică masculin (finala)
Ora 14:45 – Gimnastică feminin (finala)
Ora 20:30 – Atletism: inaltime masculin (finala)
Ora 21.05 – Atletism: lungime feminin (calificari)

Miercuri, 17 august
Ora 10:55 – Atletism: 800 m feminin
Ora 21:15 – Atletism: lungime feminin (finala)

Joi, 18 august
Ora   9.55 – Atletism: greutate masculin (calificari)
Ora 20.30 – Atletism: greutate masculin (finala)
Ora 21:15 – Atletism: 800m feminin (semifinale)

Vineri, 19 august
Ora   8:00 – Atletism 50 km mars masculin (finala)
Ora 10.20 – Gimnastică ritmică (calificari)
Ora 14:30 – Atletism 20 km mars feminin (finala)
Ora 20:40 – Atletism 4 x 400m feminin

Sâmbătă, 20 august
Ora 15.20 – Gimnastică ritmică (finala)
Ora 21:15 – Atletism: 800m feminin (finala)
Ora 22:00 – Atletism 4 x 400m feminin (finala)

Duminică, 21 august
Ora   9:30 – Atletism: maraton masculin (finala)

20.00 Festivitatea de inchidere

Hai Romania!

Nu toti, dar cred ca majoritatea romanilor stiu melodia lui Gheorghe Gheorghiu Unde dragoste nu e, nimic nu e (1993).

Ca mine pana azi cred insa ca nici ei nu stiu ca aceasta idee a fost popularizata initial de Marin Preda in Cel mai iubit dintre pamanteni (1980), carte care se spune ca i-a adus sfarsitul (venit bizar la scurt timp dupa lansarea cartii), fiind puternic critica la adresa comunismului.
“Daca dragoste nu e, nimic nu e” apare in finalul cartii ca una din ideile filosofice ale personajului principal, un profesor universitar de filosofie, inchis intr-o inchisoare comunista, batjocorit si torturat, care ajunge sa ucida pentru a nu fi ucis. Propozitia ar fi fost luata de Marin Preda dintr-o Epistola a lui Pavel. 
Am mai vazut un film scris de Marin Preda, trist dar cu un mesaj frumos “Nimic nu ne opreste sa fim fericiti”. Se numeste Portile albastre ale orasului si e un film de razboi care prezinta povestile oamenilor din bateria de la Otopeni, conflictul dintre un locotenent si un soldat, patimile si pasiunile lor, si apoi lupta lor si realizarile despre viata.

“Nimic nu ne opreste sa fim fericiti. Nimic, nimic, nimic” sunt gandurile unui soldat care in mijlocul bataliei isi da seama cat de la indemana a avut fericirea toata viata lui si-si spune siesi ca acesta trebuie sa fie un secret pe care oamenii il descopera doar in pragul mortii.
Assalamualaikum …

Teratak ini sudah lama sepi … biarpun sepi tapi masih berpenghuni. Terlalu sibuk dan tiada idea pun satu masalah jugak dalam perkara nak maintain blog bebel aku nih.

Walaupun sepi, tapi sepi itu satu pengalaman, byk yang aku lalui dari yg manis kepada yang sedih, semua dugaan dari Allah S.W.T kepada aku yang bergelar hambaNya.

Seminggu dua ni terpikir dan ada semangat semula nak membebel dalam blog rojak aku nih setelah lama sepi dan memendam idea. Nak mula semula adalah satu yang sukar setelah lama blog ini sepi. 

fikir … fikir dan fikir ….
Teratak blog aku ni dah lama sunyi, jarang posting dari tuannya digubah pada dadanya .. Harini seorang rakan bertanya, tak ada ke survey bufet ramadhan, yang ada dalam list ni pun list yang tahun lepas. 

Sejak pemergian ayahanda tersayang aku mcm takde inspirasi untuk mengomel di dalam blog ni. Tapi pertanyaan mudah dari rakan ku tadi membuatkan aku terdetik satu idea untuk kembali ke blog ini dgn idea untuk terus berblog lg selepas ini. 

Harap-harap apa yang aku fikirkan sekarang  ni dapat aku realisasikan ke dalam blog aku ini dalam masa terdekat ini dan masa-masa akan datang untuk kelangsungan kemerapuan aku di dunia maya ni.

Adiosss

Tak tahu kat mana nak berbuka hari ni ??, minggu ni ??, atau teringin nak cuba berbuka secara buffet ?? … hotel-hotel semua mahal terbabas nyer harga sampai beratus-ratus ringgit ?? … jadi kat sini aku nak mencadangkan supaya korang cuba SEMANIS AROMA BUFFET RAMADHAN di Universiti Putra Malaysia Banquet Hall. Tahun lepas buffet ni dibuat di dalam kawasan MAEPS Serdang tapi tahun ni diubah tempat ke Dewan Banquet UPM ni yang lebih luas dan selesa dan mudah untuk dicari lokasinya.

           “Semanis Aroma Buffet Ramadhan”



Harga mmg berbaloi kalau nak banding dengan buffet-buffet Ramadhan di hotel-hotel memang jauh beza murahnya, kalau kat hotel sampai beratus-ratus tapi di sini untuk Dewasa RM 49.50 NETT! Kanak-kanak RM24.50 NETT (7-12 tahun). Bawah 6 tahun FOC (Free Of Charge)! Kalau buat tempahan untuk Pakej berkumpulan 10 pax ke atas akan dapat lagi diskaun 10%. Dengan harga tu korang akan disajikan lebih 200 jenis menu antaranya KAMBING PANGGANG, BBQ dan 15 warung pelbagai menu, boleh rujuk menu kat poster di atas. Makan lah sampai korang tak leh bangun pun takpe, sebab semua tu adalah buffet ALL YOU CAN EAT hehehe …  tapi dalam bulan Ramadhan ni bawa-bawa ler bersabar bila tengok makanan tu yer hehehe …

Selain tu yang membuat kan aku suka ke sini adalah untuk ke sini bila hampir dengn waktu berbuka tu tak perlu harungi jalan yang sesak, lokasi memang strategik dan privacy dengan ada security guard lagi nak masuk ke kawasan ini, siap dengan servis VIP lagi, kawasan parking pun luas dan dekat dengan dewan serta sambil menjamu selera pelanggan akan di sajikan denganpersembahan ghazal secara live … memang best dan membuka selera. Dan yang paling aku suka ruang surau yang luas dan selesa, takde lah nak bersesak-sesak macam sesetengah tempat tu yang tak utamakan hal ni.

Jadi apa tunggu lagi, terus jer call dan buat tempahan guna nombor yang ada tercatat dalam flyers kat atas tu dan nikmatilah hidangan buffet yang enak bersama keluarga korang. untuk maklumat lanjut korang boleh juga layari page FACEBOOK mereka, klik jer kat sini … 
Semanis Aroma Buffet Ramadhan .

What makes a good logo?

Principles of Effective Logo Design
What makes a good logo? A good logo is distinctive, appropriate, practical, graphic, simple in form and conveys an intended message.
There are five principles that you should follow to ensure that this is so…
An effective logo is (in no particular order):
  • Simple
  • Memorable
  • Timeless
  • Versatile
  • Appropriate

1. Simple

A simple logo design allows for easy recognition and allows the logo to be versatile & memorable. Good logos feature something unique without being overdrawn.
While in college in the mid-70′s an instructor introduced me to the K.I.S.S. Principle of design; which translates to: Keep It Simple, Stupid. It does convey a very important design consideration. Simple logos are often easily recognized, incredibly memorable and the most effective in conveying the requirements of the client. A refined and distilled identity will also catch the attention of a viewer zipping by signage at 70 miles per hour, on packaging on the crowded shelves of a store, or in any other vehicle used for advertising, marketing and promotion. Remember, the basis of the hugely effective international branding for the world’s largest shoe manufacturer is a very simple graphic swoosh.
~ Jeff Fisher

2. Memorable

Following closely behind the principle of simplicity, is that of memorability. An effective logo design should be memorable and this is achieved by having a simple, yet, appropriate logo.
Surprising to many, the subject matter of a logo is of relatively little importance, and even appropriateness of content does not always play a significant role.
This does not imply that appropriateness is undesirable. It merely indicates that a one-to-one relationship between a symbol and what it symbolized is very often impossible to achieve and, under certain conditions, objectionable.Ultimately, the only mandate in the design of logos, it seems, is that they be distinctive, memorable, and clear.
~ Paul Rand

3. Timeless

An effective logo should be timeless – that is, it will endure the ages. Will the logo still be effective in 10, 20, 50 years?
Leave trends to the fashion industry – Trends come and go, and when you’re talking about changing a pair of jeans, or buying a new dress, that’s fine, but where your brand identity is concerned, longevity is key. Don’t follow the pack. Stand out.
~ David Airey
Probably the best example of a timeless logo is the Coca-Cola logo… if you compare it to the Pepsi logo below, you can see just how effective creating a timeless logo can be. Notice how the Coca Cola logo has barely changed since 1885? That is timeless design.

4. Versatile
An effective logo should be able to work across a variety of mediums and applications. The logo should be functional. For this reason a logo should be designed in vector format, to ensure that it can be scaled to any size. The logo should be able to work both in horizontal and vertical formats.
Ask yourself; is a logo still effective if:
  • Printed in one colour?
  • Printed on the something the size of a postage stamp?
  • Printed on something as large as a billboard?
  • Printed in reverse (ie. light logo on dark background)
One way around creating a versatile logo is to begin designing in black and white only. This allows one to focus on the concept and shape, rather than thesubjective nature of colour. One must also remember printing costs – the more colors used, the more expensive it will be for the business over the long term.
I like to work first in black and white to ensure that the logo will look good in its simplest form. Color is very subjective and emotional. This can distract from the overall design – say if you saw your logo in all red, that color may be the first thing that you respond to and not the composition of the design elements. I will not even consider submitting color suggestions to a client for review until they have signed off on a final black and white logo.
~ Patrick Winfield
One should also familiarise themself with the commercial printing process so as not to come into printing problems further down the track. Learn to know the difference between the CMYK, Pantone and RGB color systems. When designing logos, the Pantone colour system is recommended.

5. Appropriate

How you position the logo should be appropriate for its intended purpose. For example, if you are designing a logo for children’s toys store, it would be appropriate to use a childish font & colour scheme. This would not be so appropriate for a law firm.
It is also important to state that that a logo doesn’t need to show what a business sells or offers as a service. ie. Car logos don’t need to show cars, computer logos don’t need to show computers. The Harley Davidson logo isn’t a motorcycle, nor is the Nokia logo a mobile phone. A logo is purely for identification.
For further evidence of this, take the top 50 brands of the world – 94% of the logos do not describe what the company does.
Paul Rand also has a say on this topic:
Should a logo be self-explanatory? It is only by association with a product, a service, a business, or a corporation that a logo takes on any real meaning. A logo derives its meaning and usefulness from the quality of that which it symbolizes. If a company is second rate, the logo will eventually be perceived as second rate. It is foolhardy to believe that a logo will do its job immediately, before an audience has been properly conditioned.
~ Paul Rand


Source : www.justcreative.com 
This posting going to be in English, so don’t be amaze or playing stupid ok, it just sometimes I need to improves my English from time to time. I’ll still be talking about our Independence day logo and how I don’t like it at all, but 1st let us add up some more knowledge about LOGO from some website that i found.


What is a Logo?

A brand’s name is what the company or product is called. The tagline is a phrase or statement that says a little more about the brand than what the name can. The logo is the visual representation of these two and brings them all together.
There are 3 primary types of logos.
1. Text Only – A logo can be visually represented simply as text. This can be done with a readily identifiable font for branding purposes or even a plain font. The “Coca-Cola” logo with its iconic script font may be the crown jewel in this category. Another example is the logo for “IBM” with its plain font, but is creatively identifiable from the horizontal lines. 
2. Text Incorporated into Icon – These logos are characterized by the brand name being embedded into a recognizable icon (graphic symbol).


Two examples of this are:
a. Adidas, with its three stripes. The three stripes are iconic, but without “Adidas”, they’d be a bit lost on the consumer and likely difficult to identify.
b. Volkswagen, where the stacked “VW” are integrated into the seal/emblem, of which would be nothing without the letters.
3. Text with Option for Stand Alone Icon – A logo can and often does incorporate an icon or visual image accompanied by text. In extreme circumstances, this icon can have such strong brand equity that the icon itself can stand alone.
An example of this is Nike. The logo not only incorporates the text of the Nike name, but is accompanied by the recognizable swoosh icon.
Nike will even market the swoosh as a stand-alone image due to its incredibly strong brand equity.
Once the logo has been designed, the final piece is to incorporate the tagline, so a company can have two primary versions, with and without tagline.











There are no rules in designing a logo. Fonts, icon design and color palettes lend to a great deal of creativity. Regardless, a new company developing their brand identity should take into account their brand’s personality and make sure that the logo design is a good fit.
The InStar Group believes that for a new brand starting out, the brand name should be incorporated into the primary logo for branding purposes. Not everybody starts out as strong as a Nike.
 Source : http://www.theinstargroup.com
Ok, from the explainantion above we can consider our Independence Day latest logo can be categorized in the third category Text with Option for Stand Alone Icon, but in the next posting we’ll try to go further try to find some more opinion about creating a good logo. TQ
Selain kerancakan sambutan Ramadhan dan kehavocan tayangan filem The Dark Knight Rises, ada satu lagi perkara yang popular diperkatakan sekarang, iaitu berkenaan logo sambutan Merdeka 2012. Cuba tengok logonya dan baca penerangannya kat bawah ni.

LOGO MERDEKA 2012


Apa pendapat korang ? ikhlas seikhlas-ikhlasnya …

Pendapat aku senangnya …. APA KEJADAH …. sungguh sedih aku dengan pemilihan benda ni, tak tergamak aku nak gelar sebagai logo benda ni. Dah tak macam logo. Patutlah rakan-rakan aku yg keja sbg graphic designer bising satu Malaysia bila diorang tengok benda yang dikatakan logo nih. Ada yang sampai mengeluh sia-sia dia belajar designing bertahun-tahun bila logo macam ni nak di jadikan tatapan 27 juta rakyat Malaysia, suruh dia buat lagi bagus katanya … hehe.

Secara peribadi aku rasa, saper yang buat benda ni langsung tak faham tentang apa itu maksud LOGO. Sebenarnya ini bukan logo tetapi sebuah iklan. Dalam logo ini pada pendapat aku hanya nombor 55 dan perkataan Janji Ditepati yang paling penting. Perkataan MERDEKA tidak perlu ada kerana semua org dh tahu ini logo sempena hari Merdeka. 1 Malaysia juga tak perlu ada kerana 1 Malaysia adalah konsep lain yang dilaksanakan sepanjang masa bukan semata2 pada hari keemrdekaan, di sini dh dpt dilihat pertindihan mesej antara konsep 1 Malaysia dan semangat Kemerdekaan. Dan Jalur Gemilang, berapa banyak jalur Gemilang nak tonjolkan, Satu Jalur Gemilang sedang berkibar, Satu Jalur Gemilang dalam nombor 1 dan warna2 yang berkaitan Jalur Gemilang menampakkan sesak jadinya. Sebaiknya design, warna atau identiti Jalur Gemilang tak perlu diutarakan secara nyata atau sebuah bendera, leboh baik di jadikan simbol dan di selitkan dengan design bulan bintang serta gabungan warna identiti Jalur Gemilang, Sebagai rakyat Malaysia kita semua tahu design Jalur Gemilang. Dan aku rasa ni campuran pendapat banyak orang yang nak itu ada, ini ada dan yang wajib ada. Senang cakap yang bg idea dan yg reka logo ni mmg bukan org yang peka tentang designing ler. Baca penerangannya lagilah memilukan hati aku ni, macam tak berapa cerdik saja penerangannya, rasanya penerangan tu terpaksa dibuat berdasarkan apa yg ada atau beradasarkan apa yang BOS nak. Rasanya minta budak sekolah rendah lukis logo Merdeka tahun ni pun rasanya hasilnya mereka lebih faham apa itu LOGO. 

Sebaiknya penciptaan logo merdeka ini dibuat seperti suatu ketika dulu, dibuat satu pertandingan dengan meletakkan syarat apa yg perlu ada pada logo tersebut dan penyertaan dibuat undian oleh orang ramai. Bukan mcm ni, dah ler takde penglibatan orang ramai dah tu hasilnya pulak amatlah tidak memuaskan dan menampakkan sangat menonjol isu kepolitikan. Tema JANJI DITEPATI tu bagi aku dah boleh diterima, tapi bila keluar logo ni, HANCUSSSSSS (hancur terus).



p/s :  ada ke perkataan “erdeka” ….. LOL …